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		By: Adam Golightly		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[My aunt has been thinking about getting some furs because she is planning to go to a really cold place for vacation but she wants to make sure that she is safer. Getting some help from a professional could be really useful and make sure that it will look really nice and be more comfortable. I liked what you said about how they will be able to trap heat between the underfur and hollow hairs that can be more effective.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My aunt has been thinking about getting some furs because she is planning to go to a really cold place for vacation but she wants to make sure that she is safer. Getting some help from a professional could be really useful and make sure that it will look really nice and be more comfortable. I liked what you said about how they will be able to trap heat between the underfur and hollow hairs that can be more effective.</p>
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		By: Bonnie Deeds		</title>
		<link>https://www.truthaboutfur.com/amazing-facts-about-fur-dressing-for-the-arctic/#comment-2027</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bonnie Deeds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2019 22:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.truthaboutfur.com/amazing-facts-about-fur-dressing-for-the-arctic/#comment-1239&quot;&gt;Hekateras&lt;/a&gt;.

Your eloquence and enthusiasm is well noted. however any species that is plentiful enough to be classified as pests in some places ought to be utilized as a natural, organic, and sustainable product, to be used in place of nylon that is so commonly worn by members of the protest industry. By your definition, natural plentiful, and historically green products worn by thousands of generations of humans, make native and non native people truly evil.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.truthaboutfur.com/amazing-facts-about-fur-dressing-for-the-arctic/#comment-1239">Hekateras</a>.</p>
<p>Your eloquence and enthusiasm is well noted. however any species that is plentiful enough to be classified as pests in some places ought to be utilized as a natural, organic, and sustainable product, to be used in place of nylon that is so commonly worn by members of the protest industry. By your definition, natural plentiful, and historically green products worn by thousands of generations of humans, make native and non native people truly evil.</p>
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		By: Millie Hue		</title>
		<link>https://www.truthaboutfur.com/amazing-facts-about-fur-dressing-for-the-arctic/#comment-1845</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Millie Hue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2019 00:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for helping me understand that it would be best to dress up the right way for the Arctic to keep you from freezing up to your face. I will definitely look for the best clothing since we will be going there for my husband&#039;s birthday. It is included on his bucket list that is why he badly wants it for his 30th birthday.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for helping me understand that it would be best to dress up the right way for the Arctic to keep you from freezing up to your face. I will definitely look for the best clothing since we will be going there for my husband&#8217;s birthday. It is included on his bucket list that is why he badly wants it for his 30th birthday.</p>
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		By: Truth About Fur, voice of the North American fur trade		</title>
		<link>https://www.truthaboutfur.com/amazing-facts-about-fur-dressing-for-the-arctic/#comment-1275</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Truth About Fur, voice of the North American fur trade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2017 04:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.truthaboutfur.com/amazing-facts-about-fur-dressing-for-the-arctic/#comment-1274&quot;&gt;Derek Heselton&lt;/a&gt;.

Luckily, Derek, the EU is not a total no-go zone for seal products. Importing them on a commercial basis is banned, but you can still visit Canada or anywhere else that sealskin is used for clothing, and bring them back as personal effects. It will be interesting to see if the UK carries on with the ban once it leaves the EU.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.truthaboutfur.com/amazing-facts-about-fur-dressing-for-the-arctic/#comment-1274">Derek Heselton</a>.</p>
<p>Luckily, Derek, the EU is not a total no-go zone for seal products. Importing them on a commercial basis is banned, but you can still visit Canada or anywhere else that sealskin is used for clothing, and bring them back as personal effects. It will be interesting to see if the UK carries on with the ban once it leaves the EU.</p>
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		By: Derek Heselton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek Heselton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2017 18:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A clear concise and factual article explaining in detail without trying to excuse the right of indigenous people to live within their own culture without harming their environment ,concentrating on a sustainable  source with a harvestable surplus. 
The detractors of this way of life very often in my experience criticise from centrally heated offices with inflated salaries emanating from charities as in England unfortunately .
As an English commercial North Sea fisherman I feel very qualified to make these comments 
The day we leave the EU or if there was a way to obtain them I would be delighted to buy seal skins to make our own clothing .
Very best regards .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A clear concise and factual article explaining in detail without trying to excuse the right of indigenous people to live within their own culture without harming their environment ,concentrating on a sustainable  source with a harvestable surplus.<br />
The detractors of this way of life very often in my experience criticise from centrally heated offices with inflated salaries emanating from charities as in England unfortunately .<br />
As an English commercial North Sea fisherman I feel very qualified to make these comments<br />
The day we leave the EU or if there was a way to obtain them I would be delighted to buy seal skins to make our own clothing .<br />
Very best regards .</p>
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		By: Hekateras		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hekateras]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting and fairly well-researched article, I especially enjoyed the bit about hollow caribou hairs, didn&#039;t know about that. But I can&#039;t agree with you on the last point. In fact, I think you&#039;re painfully wrong and you mistakenly assume conservation to be more straightforward than it is. This is a mistake non-ecologists very often make: the underestimate the complexity of these systems and blatantly disrespect the fact that there tend to be good reasons for these laws and guidelines, and that conservation and ecology are a separate field of science for a reason. I&#039;m not an ecologist, but I am a biology grad student, so I know a little bit about this.

You dismissively cite lobbying efforts by animal rights&#039; activist as if that&#039;s the end of the story, but the momentum behind such groups is fuelled by our history of driving MULTIPLE species to extinction, often through careless overhunting - very often these are species that were extremely abundant at first. Read up on the passenger pigeon, which went extinct as a result of mass hunts meeting its unique population dynamics (basically, it needed large flocks for its life strategy to work). Thylacines, which occupy a similar niche among marsupials as wolves and foxes, used to be prevalent too before they were hunted to extinction. Some species have external factors threatening them even if their numbers are okay, like habitat fragmentation, or climate change (and the latter affects seals, as they&#039;re cold-dwelling marine mammals that are very much dependent on the dynamic of ice coverage in their habitat, and thus on temperature). Finally, even if they&#039;re listed as Least Concern, the fact is that we have no current population trend data for some of these species, so while we expect that there are a lot of them, we don&#039;t know how it&#039;s been developing. This species is abundant, but some drastic shift in its environment (like the marine ecosystem, which seals rely on for food, tipping out of balance due to pollution or climate change or overfishing or what have you) could have its numbers drop drastically within half a decade, and it&#039;s nonsensical to inflict hunting and trapping as yet another source of risk.

Even if all of the above were not a problem, it&#039;s not just about the numbers of the target species, per se. Unless it&#039;s possible to create fur/skin farms for the animal, any hunting or trapping of it in the wild on the scale necessary to satisfy worldwide demand is severely, catastrophically detrimental to the habitat and all the species living there. Sometimes conservation of one species (like the seal) is more about protecting other species by proxy, especially when said seal species is cute, adorable, and easy to win public support for (these two effects, often overlapping, are called &quot;umbrella species&quot; and &quot;flagship species&quot;). A cute species of desert fox may be less in need of protection than some Critically Endangered ten species of lizards or termites endemic to the same area, but by virtue of how our brains are wired, it&#039;s easier to motivate us to protect the little fox than a bunch of lizards. And of course, it&#039;s all tied together. Other species rely on seals for their food, such as predators higher up the food chain, and they may require a specific minimal population DENSITY for the seals to be able to do that effectively. Start hunting seals, and you may endanger polar bears far sooner than you would endanger harp and ringed seals. And at the end of the day, as much as we may know about ecosystems and food chains, we&#039;re still dealing with a chaotic system that we can only predict up to a certain degree.

Conservation is complicated, and the simple fact of it is that harvesting seal skins or the like is a luxury, and it&#039;s not important enough to warrant all the risks of something going wrong and dealing yet more damage to the environment. We&#039;ve already made those mistakes many times, and at this point, with so many human-caused factors driving species to extinction that we CAN&#039;T effectively do anything about, it&#039;s better safe than sorry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting and fairly well-researched article, I especially enjoyed the bit about hollow caribou hairs, didn&#8217;t know about that. But I can&#8217;t agree with you on the last point. In fact, I think you&#8217;re painfully wrong and you mistakenly assume conservation to be more straightforward than it is. This is a mistake non-ecologists very often make: the underestimate the complexity of these systems and blatantly disrespect the fact that there tend to be good reasons for these laws and guidelines, and that conservation and ecology are a separate field of science for a reason. I&#8217;m not an ecologist, but I am a biology grad student, so I know a little bit about this.</p>
<p>You dismissively cite lobbying efforts by animal rights&#8217; activist as if that&#8217;s the end of the story, but the momentum behind such groups is fuelled by our history of driving MULTIPLE species to extinction, often through careless overhunting &#8211; very often these are species that were extremely abundant at first. Read up on the passenger pigeon, which went extinct as a result of mass hunts meeting its unique population dynamics (basically, it needed large flocks for its life strategy to work). Thylacines, which occupy a similar niche among marsupials as wolves and foxes, used to be prevalent too before they were hunted to extinction. Some species have external factors threatening them even if their numbers are okay, like habitat fragmentation, or climate change (and the latter affects seals, as they&#8217;re cold-dwelling marine mammals that are very much dependent on the dynamic of ice coverage in their habitat, and thus on temperature). Finally, even if they&#8217;re listed as Least Concern, the fact is that we have no current population trend data for some of these species, so while we expect that there are a lot of them, we don&#8217;t know how it&#8217;s been developing. This species is abundant, but some drastic shift in its environment (like the marine ecosystem, which seals rely on for food, tipping out of balance due to pollution or climate change or overfishing or what have you) could have its numbers drop drastically within half a decade, and it&#8217;s nonsensical to inflict hunting and trapping as yet another source of risk.</p>
<p>Even if all of the above were not a problem, it&#8217;s not just about the numbers of the target species, per se. Unless it&#8217;s possible to create fur/skin farms for the animal, any hunting or trapping of it in the wild on the scale necessary to satisfy worldwide demand is severely, catastrophically detrimental to the habitat and all the species living there. Sometimes conservation of one species (like the seal) is more about protecting other species by proxy, especially when said seal species is cute, adorable, and easy to win public support for (these two effects, often overlapping, are called &#8220;umbrella species&#8221; and &#8220;flagship species&#8221;). A cute species of desert fox may be less in need of protection than some Critically Endangered ten species of lizards or termites endemic to the same area, but by virtue of how our brains are wired, it&#8217;s easier to motivate us to protect the little fox than a bunch of lizards. And of course, it&#8217;s all tied together. Other species rely on seals for their food, such as predators higher up the food chain, and they may require a specific minimal population DENSITY for the seals to be able to do that effectively. Start hunting seals, and you may endanger polar bears far sooner than you would endanger harp and ringed seals. And at the end of the day, as much as we may know about ecosystems and food chains, we&#8217;re still dealing with a chaotic system that we can only predict up to a certain degree.</p>
<p>Conservation is complicated, and the simple fact of it is that harvesting seal skins or the like is a luxury, and it&#8217;s not important enough to warrant all the risks of something going wrong and dealing yet more damage to the environment. We&#8217;ve already made those mistakes many times, and at this point, with so many human-caused factors driving species to extinction that we CAN&#8217;T effectively do anything about, it&#8217;s better safe than sorry.</p>
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		By: Tracy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2017 08:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very glad to learn so much about caribou furs - I&#039;m actually in the market for one for my wife and daughter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very glad to learn so much about caribou furs &#8211; I&#8217;m actually in the market for one for my wife and daughter.</p>
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		By: Rebecca Bradley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rebecca Bradley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2015 10:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[amazing article thanks so much we love!!]]></description>
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